I just got off the phone with author of the Rheumatoid Arthritis: The Infection Connection. She and I touch base from time to time to share what is going on in the health world.

One of the latest projects she was working on was the connection of ultra sounds and autism.

They both came on strong in the 80's and that is when autism really went wild.

Ultra Sound is a big business and not necessary unless there is a risk factor for the unborn child.

She calls it Ultra Sound Cosmetics....In today's society everyone wants to know about the sex of the unborn child so ultra sounds are a big business. Expensive too.

She was putting this info out on her blog sites and was pretty much told to stop. In other words, she was shut up.

This is pretty shocking. "Maybe" another piece of the puzzle. jam

She's a woman around my age, and we did not go thru this ultra sound testing when we were pregnant. There was no such thing available back then and everyone was just surprised when we had children. My daughter was born in the late 60's.



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Did she mention what she thinks is the precise mechanism of action of the ultrasound on the fetuses that would cause the autism?

I see ultrasound supposedly can kill microbes, and most of the autistic kid stuff I've read shows that treatment for intestinal and digestive issues (mainly leaky gut) is effective - meaning they probably have gut issues - but babies are supposedly born with sterile guts and only after birth do they populate with the good bacteria.

or maybe she did and it wasn't registering or I wasn't listening hard. I was just shocked to hear about this possible connection. But then putting the timeframes together I got to think it's quite possible.

I did some googling and found some sites with connection type info. jam

oops I added some more comments to my original post.

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http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasoundrodgers.asp

This article attempts to explain what is exactly harmful about them.

Apparently, jam, your friend isn't the only one who thinks they're bad. This is news to me, and quite alarming. It's not an issue for me since I'm childless and planning to stay this way, but this makes it look like the medical profession has this kind of thinking in mind: shoot first and ask questions later. I've never in my life heard anything bad about ultrasounds. I guess if any of my friends get pregnant, I'll try to dissuade them from having one unless it's urgently needed.

I know the medical profession is bogus and behind in major health issues because of the need to seek only profitable treatments. But the way they let people suffer is just plain sick. When enough people realize what's going on, it will change. The medical profession is also conveniently in charge of the markers and diagnostic tools that could determine the damage that their own techniques and machines are doing. They really have their butts covered. It's too bad people trust them so readily. They should stick to crisis management, the only thing they're really good at.

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and I emailed my friend who happens to be a PhD and has done extensive work in the arthritis world, she dealt with RA and wrote about her experiences with antiobiotic therapy and how effective it was for her.

Anyway, she emailed me back with more of an explanation on this connection.

Apparently, she was working with a physicist friend who had an infection going on, and over dinner one night they got to talking about the increased rate of autism, adhd, etc.

This physicist went on to do some lab experiments and theorized that un-necessary ultrasound exams on fetal brains destroy cells and nerve connections. How about that.


Being a much older person I can understand sorta the need to know the gender of the unborn child. But there are still some young parents who choose not to know and hence don't get that many ultrasounds.

I guess docs push ultrasounds today whether you want them or not!!!!

Catseye/I just read the link you posted and sent it on to my friend and also to a grandma friend of an autistic grandson.





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Know what's even worse? When organizations like the American Cancer Society and others plead for donations from people while they hide the fact that they are looking for profitable treatments. There are probably some autism groups doing it, too, though I haven't looked. Here the ACS is, making everybody think that they are looking for ANY treatment for cancer, but they are only looking to make money off it. It even spells this out in their website! It's not a secret, but nobody knows about it. Isn't that sickening? They get other people to give them money so they can try to get rich off it! I'll bet most of the people in these organizations aren't even aware of this sad fact.

I wonder if there are ANY organizations that take money from the public and do actual, helpful research instead of "profitable cures only" research? Besides this, the medical profession looks at "relieving symptoms" rather than "healing the body". That's why what I'm doing is working so well. And the research is obviously there or it wouldn't be working. When you heal what's wrong with the body, you automatically get symptom relief.

The first case of autism was diagnosed in 1943 and ultrasounds came into being in the late 1950's, is this ever explained by your friend?

Interesting theory but leaves questions that need to be answered.

Some theorize that autism is related to RF radiation --

Abstract
Recently disclosed epidemiological data indicate a dramatic increase in the incidence of autism spectrum disorders. Previously, the incidence of autism has been reported as 4–5 per 10,000 children. The most recent evidence indicates an increased incidence of about 1 per 500 children. However, the etiology of autism is yet to be determined. The recently disclosed data suggest a possible correlation between autism incidence and a previously unconsidered environmental toxin. It is generally accepted in the scientific community that radiofrequency (RF) radiation is a biologically active substance. It is also readily acknowledged that human exposures to RF radiation have become pervasive during the past 20 years, whereas such exposures were uncommon prior to that time. It is suggested that fetal or neo-natal exposures to RF radiation may be associated with an increased incidence of autism.

Sources of RF radiation are -- "Probably the most important use for RF energy is in providing telecommunications services. Radio and television broadcasting, cellular telephones, radio communications for police and fire departments, amateur radio, microwave point-to-point links, and satellite communications are just a few of the many telecommunications applications. Microwave ovens are a good example of a noncommunication use of RF energy."

Most of these sources have been around since the 1940's and the use of RF radiation has exploded over the last 20 years.

Just food for thought. Kina.

on all the foundations!!!! I don't have the energy anymore.

Kina/good info. Thanks.

Lots of pieces to the puzzle of autism. I did find the link catseye mentioned pretty interesting.



I was pregnant in the early 60's and don't recall ultrasound exams. Was it mandatory with all OB's?



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No, ultrasounds were not mandatory in the 60's or even today. At some point in time they just became part of prenatal care.

I could go on and on about the "medicalization" of pregnancy but not today.

Anyways, the biggest question on my mind about autism --- whether caused by immunizations, ultra-sounds, RF radiation ..., most children, especially in North America, are exposed to all -- but why do only some children develop autism -- what is it about these children that makes them different?

Kina.

of pregnancy. I was born in my parent's apt. 70 yrs ago!!! Things have really changed SO MUCH.

I attempted to talk my daughter into home birth for her first child but she wouldn't hear of it.

The "modern" times....

I too, was born at home -- 47 years ago -- my brother was born at home 49 years ago. My sister, the first born, was born in a maternity hospital. How times have changed. Kina.

I do have a huge concern about all t he cell phone exposure all these young children are getting from such an early age. Thinking about my grandkids health and lives, but try not to lose sleep since I can't control their lives but I believe there is so much damage going on with all this radiation.

Hope I'm Way Wrong.....jam

There could be many things that cause Autism.

Children with Autism have been around forever. These children were labeled retarded or developmentally delayed, even childhood schizophrenia.

It was not until later when diagnosis of these disorders became more sophisticated that the number increased. Sometimes a child may be labled Autistic and later found to have other problems..

Ultra sounds can be very effective in catching problems before a child is born and has saved lives. They help determine if a baby's lungs are developing normally and if not there are medications that may speed the lungs developing therefore reducing risks of death in premature infants.

Do I think that everyone needs one. Not necessarily.

My daughter is pregnant and I am glad that she is getting ultrasounds. She gets two during her pregnancy.

Just because two things are linked does not mean one causes the other.



This is my opinion, I think the benefits may outweigh the risks if indeed there are any. So far I have not seen any data to show this. gap

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I had an utrasound with my son but not with my daughter and he has autism and she doesn't. Just a thought, it does make since. Pamela

Both my kids have mild autism spectrum disorder symptoms. I had one ultrasound w each of them. They were born in 92 and 95.

Recently I've learned that it could be a genetic based problem, resulting from a genetic mutation that I've just been diagnosed with. I'm still in the midst of genetic testing, etc and then will have tests run on the kids.

My niece is 7+ mos preg and has had 4 "routine" ultrasounds. When I heard that, I thought it sounded excessive, especially because she isn't having any problems at all.

I just found this board so I'm late to this. IMHO my ds Aspergers is mostly genetic. My dh has Asperger Syndrome although he was never dx back when he was young. The work of Hans Asperger really didn't come to awareness in the US til the 80's and in the 90's even the dx in the dsm IV was fairly new (If my memory serves me).

I believe strongly in the genetic link but certainly do not count out that the environment can play a part too.

Molly

You might be interested in this thread linking EMF/RF/MW exposure from things like cell phones and wireless computers to autism, not to mention all the cell phone and wifi towers and antennas on every corner now.

http://www.prohealth.com/autism/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=148

Search for towers and antennas in your neighborhood here:
www.antennasearch.com